Taunt/Sleep and Parry

dier_cire · Post by **dier_cire** » Thu May 18, 2006 10:09 pm

Yeah, I'd rather see it stay with the number is reduced to 0. I really don't see how that can be misunderstood to include Sleep, Fear or Taunt. They don't have numbers. It's pretty cut and dry.

Making parry more powerful is unnecessary. The crush addition was gravy as is.

Lao · Post by **Lao** » Fri May 19, 2006 3:05 pm

The confusion is that it says you can block disarm, crush, and knockout. Disarm doesnt have a number included in it, but yet it can be parried.

So for simplicity I would suggest either it be usable only on frontal melee attacks that have a number, or make it work on all frontal melee attacks. Obviously these things have very different powerlevels, so its up to the GM's to determine which one works best.

Keeping track of exceptions is always more difficult.

dier_cire · Post by **dier_cire** » Sun May 21, 2006 10:37 am

the only exception is disarm...

crush has a number, knockout has a number. This is really a lot simplier than you are trying to make it.

Kidwynn · Post by **Kidwynn** » Sun May 21, 2006 11:04 am

Disarmed can be parried UNLESS the warrior is already raging and then well he's disarmed.

Post by **WayneO42** » Mon May 22, 2006 8:51 am

If we wanted the assasin's sleep to be parriable, we could change the call from sleep to an obsene amount of knockout. Like maybe 30 or something stooopid like that

cole45 · Post by **cole45** » Mon May 22, 2006 8:54 am

personally i think it's fine the way it is. the assassin has to charge for 30 seonds, have a tagret and somehow hit the target with out getting hit. Good luck doing that from the front and if you do, you kind of deserve to have it work.

Lao · Post by **Lao** » Mon May 22, 2006 11:06 am

My point isnt that its really complicated, my point is that exceptions make things more complicated. If all numbered calls can be parried, then just make it all numbered calls and forget about disarm. By adding disarm all you are doing is adding unnecessary complication.

As one skill, its not a big deal...when multiple skills all start having exceptions to them then the game becomes complicated (which I thought was kinda contrary to the point).

For example: Hold ground has exceptions, Parry has exceptions, rage has exceptions, all of these things add up and cause confusion. Individually not a big deal...all combined can be a bigger deal. (even more so for those of us who play multiple larps all with different rules for the same calls)

Peace420 · Post by **Peace420** » Mon May 22, 2006 11:48 pm

cole45 wrote:personally i think it's fine the way it is. the assassin has to charge for 30 seonds, have a tagret and somehow hit the target with out getting hit. Good luck doing that from the front and if you do, you kind of deserve to have it work.

Werd to yo motha...

dier_cire · Post by **dier_cire** » Fri May 26, 2006 5:54 pm

Also note that none of those skills are used in conjunction with each other, so you only need to worry about one at a time. (Granted, parry could be used with hold ground but it's be pointless as you'd still take 1).

If you can't remember the rules to one of your skills, then don't use it until you find out. You should (in general) have a tactic picked out before the combat happens so you know what skills you'll be using ahead of time anyway.

Alexander · Post by **Alexander** » Mon May 29, 2006 1:40 pm

ok i wanted to ask this because it came up it just dosent sound right. durring the last attack on the inn some of the npcs were perrying lash. i dont see how that worked. would some one be so kinda as to explain it to me.

cole45 · Post by **cole45** » Mon May 29, 2006 8:45 pm

I was a little surprized to discover lash could be parried from the front as well. I'm not against it, but it's certainly a clarification that should be made.

Nelkie · Post by **Nelkie** » Tue May 30, 2006 6:05 am

To my knowledge lash cannot be parried. It does not state anywhere in the book that lash can be parried. One can only parry melle frontal attacks, crush, & knockout. Lash is not a melle attack.

Peace420 · Post by **Peace420** » Tue May 30, 2006 9:27 am

And lash doesn't neccesarily hit you from the front only either, even if you are facing the person calling it. It could be a wave of energy, a "fireball" or it could be a tail whip or wing stike.

cole45 · Post by **cole45** » Tue May 30, 2006 9:47 am

I was under the same impression, but there was a GM statement to that fact last game.

Post by **WayneO42** » Tue May 30, 2006 11:22 am

You cannot parry lash. If there was a GM statement that you could it was a situational statement good only for that seen. As stated before, any judgement calls made by a GM in the field should be treated as a situational call for that scene only unless otherwise stated.