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Question for warriors

Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 2:19 pm
by GM_Chris
Ok throughout the event I will be attacking someone and their response was to stand there, hands to their side and say nothing.

Didnt seem like def matrix since parry was used.
Didnt seem like hold ground since the people keep moving.

Anyways its annoying. COuld I please be told what was used and then can we come up with a way to comunicate what it is you are doing?

For example if you are Def Matrix then you actually need to swing your arms around and attempt to block even if the person is swining 1. I would say the same is true with hold ground.

After some hits get through you sould say something like "you are not damageing me"

Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 2:27 pm
by cole45
throw a few zeros, and they'll get the hint. :)

Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 4:11 pm
by Rhul
I know that when I am playing Rhul and I defensive matrix, I actively try to block attacks. Sometimes I throw a couple of zero's to give the NPC a hint. Sometimes, I even hold my fists upside down against my forarms and block like that.
Anyways its annoying. COuld I please be told what was used and then can we come up with a way to comunicate what it is you are doing?.............After some hits get through you sould say something like "you are not damageing me"
Actually, I have seen an astounding amount of NPC's do this at both FH and WH. I have even seens NPC's that after the fight, laughed and joked that "Why did you guys keep hitting us with "vorpal/magic/etc", it was just healing us and negating all the damage everyone else was doing, ha, ha." But that was never communicated, even by a purely-roleplaying response on the NPC's part.

I have hit lewer-level monsters at WH Garritt alongside other Empaths with multiple calls of 10 or more magic, and after getting frustrated that the NPC's evidently weren't acknowledging the hits, they then told us that either the magic wasn't doing any damage, or that it was actually healing them.

Some even tried to counter it by asking a snarky, "Well, do you actually see your attacks doing any damage?"

Uhhh......no. Not any more than I could see through the NPC that was a ghost. It's the downside of a larp that unfortunately needs to be verbally roleplayed by the NPC.

Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 4:27 pm
by Ark
i had not witnessed anything like this, so i am curious as well,

i have always been on the side of saying, "no effect" "its not doing anything" etc.

when we fight monsters and hit the them i saw them saying "you blow a chunk off", "that seems to heal it" etc.

but if you as a GM feel that you need to know what they are doing then you should pull them aside and ask what they were doing, but yes i belive it should always be explained what a person is doing, and if it is having effect

Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 4:30 pm
by Morgan
Could have been Heroic Stand as well.

Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 4:52 pm
by GM_Chris
Look

This is not a bash session this is a "how do we fix the communication problem session"

I will address the NPC side so can I please get an answer to the question I asked.

Thanks much

Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 5:14 pm
by Francesco DeLemuerte
"Defensive Matrix" as soon as it's activated. "Defensive Matrix Down" as soon as your done using it. If you approach another enemy while using defensive matrix say "Defensive Matrix Active".

Yes I know it takes time to say. But it also takes time to throw up a near invincible wall of defense and to drop it.

Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 9:56 pm
by Ark
Francesco DeLemuerte wrote: invincible wall of defense

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA etc.

with the now MANY ways to do something other than "1" this makes me laugh...as seen above :D

Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 10:38 pm
by Aurora
See if I use defensive matrix I'm sure to say the 0 to let npcs/people know i have it up.

If I have to start saying defensive matrix then I'm ok with that too.

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:18 am
by GM_Chris
LOL guys I dont even know if it is def matrix people are using, and not every person uses it. I dont believe anyone is cheating or I would have asked at the time I saw it.

Once we figure it out we can come up with tools to fix to communication hole.

Just.... kinda... standing there.

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:36 am
by Torakhan
GM_Chris wrote:I will address the NPC side so can I please get an answer to the question I asked.
To help facilitate your questioning can you give examples of players who were "standing there with their hands to their side, saying nothing", or at least during which scenes? (i.e., "Bob X, during the Gunther River fight was just standing there while I, as a rabid coyote, was hitting him time and again." ) It might knock loose a few memories for folks who might be doing it, or who were witnessing it and know. Then again, if the NPC threads are more useful to your questioning then perhaps it's best to go there for your answer.

It's possible, I suppose, that those people aren't online(yet?) to respond to your question, or don't even realize they were doing that.

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:38 am
by GM_Chris
very possible. I can PM them directly there is no reason to post their names publicly some I believe based on their comments think im on some kind of witch hunt.

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 5:11 pm
by Rhul
Look

This is not a bash session this is a "how do we fix the communication problem session"

LOl, sorry. I'm sure I sounded that way Chris. But many times I'm bad at getting my point across on forums. My post was a long winded way of saying that we should be telling NPC's if we are doing something that is negating or lessening their attacks' effectiveness........but NPC's should be better at doing that as well, because that can be just as frustrating for us PC's as it is for you guys.

I don't think there should be a hard and fast thing we say, we should just say something. Maybe, "Your attacks don't seem to be doing much", or another such "not much damage" shorthanded quip. Just a audio signal to help make up for the visuals that can't be "seen" at a LARP, but would be pretty evident in real-life combat.

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:14 am
by General Maximus
Also, both sides can ask the question. Are my attacks hurting you. I have asked that question many times just to clarify. Both sides forget, this helps reminds them some verbal naraition can go a long way. :D

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 9:35 am
by Dallid
Exactly - but it's when the don't *respond* to the question that it becomes ubber frustrating. No idea how that can be fixed, though, save maybe Game On Meeting reminders.